How to make shower jelly (not only LUSH-like)
I have been receiving requests from you to post a recipe on LUSH shower jellies.
I did my usual “recipe cracking”, searching for resources, then some experimenting and this is what I came up with (… and I consider it pretty good!)…
As usually, I discuss here some concepts and also show you not only the successful, but also all unsuccessful versions (so that you know what does not work…) 🙂
Contents
Deciphering the LUSH shower jelly recipe
When trying to duplicate a product, you need to do the following:
1. Buy the product – so that you get the feeling of it – I did this some time ago and remember LUSHs Whoosh very well…
2. Find the INCI ingredient list and understand the importance/role of each ingredient –
this way you know which of them are a must, which can be omitted and if/how they can be substituted – let’s face it, how many times you have all the ingredients at home…
3. Search for other clues that can help you decide on the proportions of ingredients and the how to do it best: the best is to find patent applications, recipes of similar products, and understand the basic concepts (in this case on how to make a jelly in general!)
The INCI ingredient list
There are two lush jellies, let’s take the Woosh:
Glycerine, Honey Water, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Propylene Glycol, Carrageenan Extract, Perfume, Fresh Organic Lemon Juice, Fresh Grapefruit Juice, Fresh Organic Lime Juice, Grapefruit Oil, Rosemary Oil, Geranium Oil, *Citral, *Geraniol, *Citronellol, *Limonene, *Linalool, Colour 42090, Methylparaben, Propylparaben
… to understand them, we need to know the principle of making a jelly…
The principle of making a jelly
… is easy. Mix water with some jellying agent and voila – the jelly is made! 🙂
To make it foam, use liquid soap instead of water, or add a surfactant to your water.
You might know that gelatin is mixed with liquid soap in many homemade recipes to get a shower jelly, however, I am a vegetarian so this is not really an option to me.
Moreover, based on my experiments with agar agar (see below), the vegan substitute for gelatin, I think that such a jelly can disintegrate very fast upon using!
Knowing these basics, we can start to decipher role of the ingredients in the LUSH shower jelly…
- Glycerine – the role of it will be explained below, necessary
- Honey Water – the water phase, necessary
- Sodium Laureth Sulfate – makes it bubbly, necessary
- Propylene Glycol – the role of it will be explained below, optional
- Carrageenan Extract – makes it jelly, necessary
- Perfume – makes it smell well, optional
- Fresh Organic Lemon Juice – adjusts pH, brings some goodies, optional
- Fresh Grapefruit Juice – adjusts pH, brings some goodies, optional
- Fresh Organic Lime Juice – adjusts pH, brings some goodies, optional
- Grapefruit Oil, Rosemary Oil, Geranium Oil – essential oils, make it smell good, bring goodies, optional
- *Citral, *Geraniol, *Citronellol, *Limonene, *Linalool, – these are naturally present in essential oils
- Colour 42090 –Â makes it blue!
- Methylparaben, Propylparaben – preservative
Three ingredients arise questions:
- What is the role of glycerine and propylene glycol?Â
- Can we use other gum instead of carrageenan?
Next, I checked the LUSH’s How it is made video, to get an idea on the quantity of ingredients and maybe other clues:
I saw that carrageenan gum is mixed with glycerine, which was quite interesting. First I thought it was to help the carrageenan dissolve more easily and this is what led me to the idea of using glycerine to dissolve Xanthan gum (see my post on How to dissolve Xanthan gum).
I performed a series of experiments to find whether carrageenan can be substituted for other gum and which percentage of gum is necessary to get the best consistency. I played with glycerine, too, to find out if it is necessary.
Deciphering the consistency
I tested xanthan gum, agar-agar and carrageenan and tried different quantities of glycerine and used sodium coco sulfate in pellets as my surfactant (SCS).
Xanthan gum results
Xanthan gum is not an option, because it is just a thickener! I got the following consistencies (see image below):
– Top left: 20% glycerine, 10% sodium coco sulfate (SCS), 6% xanthan gum, 64% water. Not transparent, spreadable
– Bottom left: 50% glycerine, 10% SCS, 4% Xanthan gum, 36% water. Not transparent, spreadable.
– Top right: 50% glycerine, 5% SCS, 8% Xanthan gum, 37% water. Not transparent, elastic
– Bottom right: 43% glycerine, 5% Xanthan gum, 52% water. Not transparent, elastic
To get better idea of the consistency, see the video I made:
It appeared to me that glycerine makes the consistency more elastic, however, even very high proportion of xanthan gum (8%) did not result in a jelly.
Agar-agar & carrageenan results
I tried these two simultaneously – both are making a jelly. They are both seaweed extracts, however their jellies have different consistencies. The jelly of agar agar is less elastic.
Given the recommended % for each gum, I understood that a double quantity of carrageenan is needed to get the same consistency as agar-agar.
When working with different gums to thicken / gel your product, you need to know how are they used, as it is very different. Xantham gum, for example, thickens immediately, without the water needed to be warm, while agar agar and carrageenan need to be bring to boil and mixed well.
Tested recipes:
No. | Water | Â Glycerine | Agar-agar | Carrageenan | Â Consistency |
1. | 99.5% | 0.5% | not firm enough (decomposes upon touch), transparent | ||
2. | 99% | 1% | not firm enough (decomposes upon touch), not transparent | ||
3. | 99% | 1% | firm enough, but cracking, not elastic, transparent | ||
4. | 98% | 2% | firm enough, but cracking, not elastic, not transparent | ||
5. | 49% | Â 50% | 1% | firm and elastic, slightly transparent | |
6. | 48% |  50% | 2% | firm and even more elastic, not transparent |
This test definitely confirmed the importance of glycerine in the consistency – it makes the jelly elastic!Â
After I did the experiment, I found online multiple LUSH patents, and the one named Cosmetic Product Comprising a Seaweed Extract, in Particular Carrageen.
Here we can learn about the importance of glycerine and propylene glycol:
The inventors hereof have discovered that the inclusion of monopropylene glycol, mixed with the glycerine, has a remarkable effect upon the consistency of the jelly, resulting in the jelly having a durable and almost rubber-like texture. The jelly is much firmer than a conventional jelly and readily holds a shape imparted to it, for example by moulding.
I found the propylene glycol unnecessary to make a firm, moldable elastic jelly that is well used in the shower.
The recipe (s)
These are very simple recipes that work. Both agar-agar and carrageenan are usable, however the carrageenan gives a more resistant and elastic jelly.
Recipe with carrageenan
50% Glycerine
41% Water
5% Sodium Coco Sulphate (SCS)
2% Carrageenan
0.5% colorant
1% Fragrance
0.5% Preservative
Heat water and SCS until SCS dissolves. Mix glycerine and carrageenan and mix in the water and SCS. Bring the to boil and stir well. Than add colorant, preservative and fragrance and pour in the mold. Let harden.
The is its consistency:
This is how it foams
Recipe with agar-agar
50% Glycerine
42% Water
5% Sodium Coco Sulphate (SCS)
1% Agar-agar
0.5% colorant
1% Fragrance
0.5% Preservative
Mix glycerine, water and SCS – heat and let SCS dissolve. Then mix in agar-agar, bring to boil and stir well. Than add colorant, preservative and fragrance and pour in the mold. Let harden – attention – if you put it on a soap, it will disintegrate where it touched soap, because agar-agar does not work in alkaline conditions.
This is its consistency
And this is how it foams:
Other possible recipes
These recipes I did not try, but should work as well:
1. Substituting liquid soap (synthetic surfactant, not real soap based!) for SCS + water portion in both agar-agar and carrageenan recipe
2. Substituting liquid soap (the real soap!) for SCS + water portion in the carrageenan recipe (this is because real liquid soap is alkaline and agar-agar does not gel in alkaline solutions)
3. I have seen later recipes using only 5% of glycerine, 59.5% water, 30% of surfactants (SCS), 2% fragrance, 2% carrageenan, 1% preservative, 0.5% color. I think this might work as well, and be actually even more foamy 🙂
This entry was posted by evik on October 22, 2013 at 22:19, and is filed under bath, cosmetics making, LUSH-like. Follow any responses to this post through RSS 2.0.You can leave a response or trackback from your own site.
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#5 written by Sally 8 years ago
At this point I’m just trying to make a clear stiff gel stick, so I left out the soap, fragrance and preservative. First off which type of carrageenan did you use (kappa, iota?)? Also after boiling there are alot of fine bubbles in the gel. I stirred it in the mold, which got out the large bubbles, but the fine bubbles are still there. I tried pouring through a sieve to de-gas, but it gelled in the sieve and wouldn’t go through. I notice yours does not appear to have the bubbles. How do you get them out? If I added a small amount of surfactant, would this help. I work in a lab and have poured toxic acrylic gels. We used to degas by vacuum filtration through a membrane filter, but this gel sets so quickly, it doesn’t appear to work.
Any suggestions?
Sally
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#6 written by waheed 8 years ago
Hi Evik,
Sorry for a very very late post but recently only I came across this wonderful site and tried the above recipe with Carrageenan. I have used SLES in place of SCS and its around 6 %, rest of the ingredients are same. Can you please tell me if it is going to get hard or remain soft like Jell-O???? I have used SATIAGEL VP 508 from Cargill, the initial results look good with a typical jelly like consistency. If I have to increase the hardness do you think I should push up the percentage of Carrageenan and if this Carrageenan is the right grade I have used???? One last thing, can teh glycerin be replaced with water to reduce the formula cost????
Thanks again for this wonderful site.waheed
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#7 written by evik 8 years ago
Hi Waheed! I am not sure what difference it makes using SLES instead of SCS, but if you say it made a difference, than I would increase the carrageenan by 0.5%. Did you boil it for a while? Carrageenan really needs boiling, otherwise it remains mushy. I do not really know Satiagel and have hard time to find something about it online, what kind of carrageenan is it?
If you get rid of glycerine, your jelly is not going to be plastic, it will break when you use it. I mention it in the article :). You can try to lower the glycerine, but I did not experiment much with that…-
#8 written by waheed 8 years ago
Hi evik,
Thanks a ton for replying to an old post, btw I got the product right and perfect. Your recipe worked fab, since I didn’t have SCS I used SLES (70%) and it is great. I used fragrance, preservative and colorant as well, it turned out to be fun and it feels like some achievement. So just to inform you that if someone wants to replace SCS with SLES it can be done with no hassles at all and it would be a great product. I added upto 7% SLES in the final formula. Now I am planning the same jelly with pumice/ walnut shell so that we have a scrubbing soap jelly soap.
thanks again for this great recipe.
waheed
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#9 written by waheed 8 years ago
Hi evik,
Check the link below and you would know the type.
http://www.cargill.com/products/personal-care/ingredients/hydrocolloids/carrageenans/index.htm
waheed
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#10 written by Irina 8 years ago
Hello Evik, great blog, so much to learn, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!
Evik, which mould/mold have you used for making jelli? Which would be the best for jellies- the plastic or silicon one? Can you tell us how didi you unmould the jelli and did you use something to wipe your mould with before you poured the jelli in to the mould? Looking forward for fast reply!
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#12 written by Irina 8 years ago
Thank you Evik!
I was wondering if you could help me, please? We have an essential oils or synthetic aromatic oil to add the smell to our creations. But they are oils and , as you know, oil+H2O= milk- giving cloudy and/or milky result.
My question is- is there anything, NOT oil based that is smelling nice, we could add to avoid cloud/milk and in order to our creations smell good?
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#14 written by Wendy 8 years ago
Hi Evik, I have just started making my own cosmetics a few weeks ago and I came across to your blog yesterday and I think it’s absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much for sharing your recipes and experimental success and failures with everyone! This shower jelly recipe looks pretty awesome – I just have a couple of questions. Does the shower jelly over dry the skin? Can this also be used as shampoo jelly? Also right now I am in New Zealand and I will be moving to the UK in a couple of months – do you know any good wholesale suppliers for cosmetic-making ingredients over there?
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#16 written by Kelley 8 years ago
Hello Evik,
This is a wonderful and very interesting site. I was about to make this recipe and was wondering what one would use as the preservative? I didn’t see it listed in the above. If I leave it out will it effect the stability of the jelly?Thanks so much for sharing these experiments with us,
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#20 written by Joe Shedid 7 years ago
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#23 written by Liv♡ 7 years ago
Hi! Awesome post! However, im not so good with % and I found it a little confusing… Could you explain it in measurements? If you have the time to explain the recipe to me, it would be great if you could tell me the ratio of soap to water (SCS substitute) Please get back to me ASAP because this was the only vegan recipe for shower jelly I could find and im really excited to make it.
♡Liv♡
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#25 written by Jane 7 years ago
Hi Evik!
First of all thank you for making so interesting soap site! It is very helpful! 🙂 I’ve been working on with this carrageenan recipe for quite long 😀 I don’t have SCS as a suractant. Instead I use 30 % of Coco Glucoside or Decyl Glucoside the liquid one. My problem is that the jelly mixture doesn’t harden even if I use 6 % of carrageenan.I first mix glycerin and carrageenan, and later I add water, and then the liquid surfactant, then I bring it to boil, and later I add the other ingredients colour etc.. Does it matter what surfactant I use? Also what is the right phase to add it?
Thank you again and hope to hear from you! 🙂
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#27 written by Mickey 6 years ago
Dear Evik,
Thank you for sharing your passion with us! You did such a thorough, wonderful job experimenting and documenting this recipe! You are amazing! I have a couple of questions tho….what kind of preservative did you use, and the SCS, was it liquid or powder/ noodle dry type?
When you use lecithin as emulsifier in your recipes, do you use liquid or dry powder lecithin?
By the way, I tried to make the homemade emulsifier with stearic acid, glycerine and vinegar, but increased the recipe to 4 oz, boiled with vinegar for over an hour, and it completely failed! I dont know what I did wrong.
I would love if you have time to answer my questions above…!
Thank you in advance!
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#28 written by Indi~ 5 years ago
I appreciate this so much! I love this stuff and would like to make it for my family because it’s so expensive to purchase over and over. Would you be kind and share where you got your supplies, in particular the Carrageenan, Sodium Coco Sulphate. Also, is there a non-paraben alternative you could suggest as a preservative? I thank you with all my heart! <3
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#30 written by Helen 5 years ago
Hi Evik,
I recently began making my own liquid soap from scratch, and was so excited that I might be able to turn it into a jelly! Unfortunately, I have yet to succeed. I have followed your recipe to the letter, substuting the water and surfactant amounts for my liquid soap. I’ve tried just replacing the surfactant with my soap, I’ve tried heating and mixing in different ways, but it doesn’t even thicken. Store bought liquid soap works fine, just not my hand made soap.. Could it possibly be the saponified oils in my soap?? It’s the only thing I can think of.. My soap is just made with KOH, coconut and olive oils, citric acid, water and glycerine. Any ideas would be much appreciated -
#32 written by Amanda 5 years ago
Thank you for this post. I super appreciate your scientific approach to soap making and I am very impressed. But, for the lay person like me I cannot figure out how to put the percentages you listed in the recipe into practice. Could someone possibly help me understand in cooking measurement? Thank you!
Sincerely,
Not Too Proud To Ask The Dumb Questions
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#33 written by Tirza Levana 5 years ago
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#36 written by AuraChic 5 years ago
I am very appreciated that i found your experiment about them. Im very interested about Carrageenan that very useful. May i ask you something? I wanna make ur own soap that flexible like jelly soap but it the clear or transparent outlooking. Can we make or need something different? Thank you for answer soon ^^
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Love this post- I think I’ve made around 50 of these experimenting with carrageenan, Castile soap and glycerin etc. Noticed the gelatin works fine with Castile but I cannot get it to work with the vege gel. Think my Castile maybe too runny.
Anyway for those of who struggle with the percentages like I did to start with, you decide on how much you want to make so say 200 mls, for each ingredient you work out the percentage so for the glycerine 50%- you would either press 50 then the % button on your calculator and times that by 200 (the quantity of your overall jelly) so that would be 100g. Or if you don’t have a percentage button, you would do 50 divided by 100= 0.5 and times that by your quantity you want. Whichever method works better for you, you do that process for each ingredient using the same overall quantity you want to make (in my case 200 mls) hope that makes sense!
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#38 written by Poet 5 years ago
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#41 written by evik 5 years ago
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We tried your jelly recipe with carrageenan. The mixture became so thick at such a high temperature, I could not get the liquid germall 2 in – at 132 degrees the mixture was nearly solid. Does the mixture need to be brought to a boil? I let it be very hot (near or at boiling) for 5 minutes. Was that too long? I used 2 percent as your recipe indicates. I used Kappa carrageenan – I don’t know if that makes a differenct. It looks beautiful and the texture feels great but Im worried about the germall.
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#46 written by IcÃar 4 years ago
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#48 written by Juvelyn 3 years ago
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#50 written by winshen 3 years ago
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#51 written by Guylaine Lessard 3 years ago
Ton site est vraiment super et tes explications sont vraiment très claires. J’ai fait plusieurs plusieurs gelées qui n’ont jamais fonctionné… et là je tombe sur ton site avec détails et vidéos…c’est tout simplement magnifique! Dis-moi, toi personnellement, laquelle des deux recettes as-tu préféré avec carraghênane ou agar agar? Puis-je faire un mix des deux gommes…genre moitié moitié? Et je veux que ça mousse vraiment beaucoup..à quel pourcentage suggères-tu que j ajuste le scs et l’eau dans ce cas? Merci!
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Evik thank you so much for this awesome post!! I have made my own shower jelly several times using agar agar (I am also a vegetarian so gelatin is not an option) and have never been 100% happy with the outcome of my jelly. It looked nice, but it would dissolve way too soon under the shower. I always added glycerin to my recipes but now I see that I used way too little of it to get the right structure! So I am really excited about your post! I will be trying my new shower jelly (with a higher amount of glycerin) very soon 🙂